Every performer who’s ever been on the road has at least one bizarro story that could have been pulled straight from the iconic music mockumentary, This Is Spinal Tap. Co-hosts Allen Keller and Alex Hofmann delve deep into their guests’ harrowing, humbling, and hilarious Spinal Tap Moments uncovering universal truths along the way.

Nirvana “Nevermind” producer & Garbage drummer Butch Vig tells us about the time he lost Kurt Cobain at a Butthole Surfers show; how Garbage was once forced to play a gig at gunpoint; and why the band’s lead singer Shirley Manson nearly didn’t pass her audition.

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